The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.

Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.

But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.

The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?

Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.

For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.

With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.

Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.

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  1. Mekai Fortune

    Mekai Fortune

    11 uur geleden

    Nice production

  2. Andrew Garcia

    Andrew Garcia

    14 uur geleden

    Probably the coolest merc ever short of the hammer

  3. Tj Enki

    Tj Enki

    16 uur geleden

    Please do the Lexus LS 400/430

  4. Lorend Bungaran

    Lorend Bungaran

    18 uur geleden

    04:17 is he trying to sit on the bonnet??

  5. Christopher Prose

    Christopher Prose

    18 uur geleden

    Great video and so interesting. I had no idea there was so much going on with this car at the time. I do remember when flushed headlights finally arrived in America. They were so cool! Still, it took the US manufacturers years to catch up with that trend and for congress to approve the innovation. You had only two choices with American cars: Round or square, that's it. To me, Europe still has a more diverse and intriguing range of cars to choose from. All we get anymore is SUVs. At least they all come with flush headlights now.

  6. Alan Hadzic

    Alan Hadzic

    18 uur geleden

    God is above as Mercedes below

  7. Tapejara 150

    Tapejara 150

    18 uur geleden

    He knows.

  8. LEE ZEO

    LEE ZEO

    21 uur geleden

    W124 love it

  9. Brendan Carlson

    Brendan Carlson

    Dag geleden

    🔨

  10. Birch

    Birch

    Dag geleden

    Man, now I just gotta see the LS400 video.

  11. Henry P

    Henry P

    Dag geleden

    One of my favorite episodes, and prob one of my favorite cars ever! Great Content !

  12. Obamaistoast2012

    Obamaistoast2012

    Dag geleden

    The most perfect car is my 93 mitsubishi expo LRV,

  13. socallawrence

    socallawrence

    Dag geleden

    This dude is a mix of Adam Sandler, Ben Affleck and and Edward Burns LOL

  14. battlecat

    battlecat

    Dag geleden

    Lexus will always be better than Benz.

  15. Mudiaga Idjerhaka

    Mudiaga Idjerhaka

    Dag geleden

    Till today....2021.... are you sure..though I like Mercedes benz

  16. A one

    A one

    Dag geleden

    W124 engineering masterpiece

  17. Nick Hagen

    Nick Hagen

    Dag geleden

    Saw the intro. I insta subbed !:) i know am the right place !

  18. xn0

    xn0

    Dag geleden

    The masturbating windshield wiper is awesome.

  19. Jose Gutierrez

    Jose Gutierrez

    2 dagen geleden

    A thing of beauty, this car is rolling art where form follows function

  20. Nick Blackwell

    Nick Blackwell

    2 dagen geleden

    Brilliant video. Very interesting

  21. Don K

    Don K

    2 dagen geleden

    I just discovered this video. I have a 1989 W124 200, which has done 446 000 km - every thing still original and she goes like a bomb. When I give my grandchild's friends a lift from school, they always say, "wow, it rides so smoothly" even though their parents have the latest models of all types of vehicles. I love my Merc as it goes untouched from service to service. Other cars dread colliding with it as it is like a tank in comparison with many of the flimsy cars of today. Although it has been a family car for years, the interior is immaculate and so too the exterior (except for a bit of rust at rear window (coastal car)). Still quite a few in my Town looking super good. You can park them next to the latest models and it will stand proud. Thanks for the excellent presentation.

  22. manolis wec

    manolis wec

    2 dagen geleden

    nice work

  23. MökkiMan

    MökkiMan

    2 dagen geleden

    Still, Mercedes W124 is better than LS400

  24. Stefan M

    Stefan M

    2 dagen geleden

    I remember when I was kid I saw this car and i fall in love with Mercedes. This Mercedes together with w140, w123 was symbol of success.

  25. Kalle Simonen

    Kalle Simonen

    2 dagen geleden

    volvo 940!

  26. M22ate

    M22ate

    2 dagen geleden

    I need one

  27. Gregory Garcia

    Gregory Garcia

    2 dagen geleden

    Damn doode. You’re such a Fender Licker. I love your style.

  28. Rakyh

    Rakyh

    2 dagen geleden

    My brother had one of the few 500E in Sweden and that thing was an absolute BLAST to drive!

  29. Peter Kröger

    Peter Kröger

    3 dagen geleden

    I always find it hillarious when I hear what Americans call "a compact". This was the second biggest Mercedes for crying out loud. Here in Europe we call a VW Golf a compact an thats two sizes smaller. (At least back then.)

  30. 4k re-ality

    4k re-ality

    3 dagen geleden

    Burt Kreisher to tell you how great the 500E was

  31. Conor James

    Conor James

    3 dagen geleden

    anyone else do a google search. see the price ...laugh...and then wanted to buy 1?

  32. Bad-Short-Videos

    Bad-Short-Videos

    3 dagen geleden

    The "Porsche" license plate holder on the 124 is very fitting

  33. Dave Mills

    Dave Mills

    3 dagen geleden

    Now this was fun to watch. Excellent 👌

  34. Louigie

    Louigie

    3 dagen geleden

    I want that car... Super Advanced yet built by 1970??? Dude..

  35. Channel D

    Channel D

    3 dagen geleden

    I had a friend who had one, it's was awesome

  36. channel surfer

    channel surfer

    3 dagen geleden

    why would anybody thumb this show down? this is how you do a car show...it's the best one.

  37. Anubhav Singh

    Anubhav Singh

    3 dagen geleden

    Some of the finest video I have seen in long time

  38. channel surfer

    channel surfer

    3 dagen geleden

    ...is the 2010 Jaguar XF hands down.

  39. veezo85

    veezo85

    3 dagen geleden

    My W124 saved me from a head on collision with a Toyota pickup. I skidded off the road due to an oil spill and my car didn't have airbags. I walked away from the crash sadly my car didn't..

  40. Premium Motors Mercedes Service

    Premium Motors Mercedes Service

    3 dagen geleden

    Nice car and reliable

  41. R. Flash

    R. Flash

    4 dagen geleden

    The things you can do when you actually put some effort in. We went to the moon 40 years ago and now all these wannabe engineers with fancy computers can't even build a 747 with it blowing up! Also how on earth do you build a car that can't even fit down ur own assembly line like nobody thought to measure!🤦‍♂️

  42. Mean Mister Mustard

    Mean Mister Mustard

    4 dagen geleden

    one of my favorite cars of all time... and I'm dreaming of having one. LOL! for 250 to 350k philippine pesos, i can own one... that's the E230 - E320 btw

  43. Tech Mania

    Tech Mania

    4 dagen geleden

    worlds most perfect sedan is bmw e39 and please dont discussions!

  44. Øyvind Samuelsen

    Øyvind Samuelsen

    4 dagen geleden

    Liked in 1 sec just because of JC. Yeah the one in the video, not the other guy.

  45. Exotic Cars

    Exotic Cars

    4 dagen geleden

    Nah it's heap of junk. Best sedan is the Tesla Model S and Model 3

  46. Diev-Man NGWENYA

    Diev-Man NGWENYA

    4 dagen geleden

    I still saving to restore my Gramp's

  47. NihlistNif

    NihlistNif

    4 dagen geleden

    PORSHA

  48. Jochen Bas

    Jochen Bas

    4 dagen geleden

    The first panamera

  49. GOLDMANN TMT

    GOLDMANN TMT

    5 dagen geleden

    I will definitely buy this W124 Mercedes-Benz 500E before I die .

  50. LR_S3

    LR_S3

    5 dagen geleden

    The W124 is such a wonderful car, even the normal ones.

  51. Naor L

    Naor L

    5 dagen geleden

    Cars today are so boring. fast and economic but lack of charm and soul

  52. Naija guy Gamer

    Naija guy Gamer

    5 dagen geleden

    In the past,this car was only own by a rich business man,presidents,royal family or a high political worker...it was the most respected car then even than the rolls royce and Volkswagen Mercedes is and always will be king

  53. J. RAMIREZ

    J. RAMIREZ

    5 dagen geleden

    Lexus ls400 is better

  54. Tomas T

    Tomas T

    5 dagen geleden

    times when experienced engineers and designer had the word and not some 20y old pencil pusher on the economic department. :D:D:D...so lets see how hooptie likes it :D

  55. jonathan hutsell

    jonathan hutsell

    6 dagen geleden

    90s Porsche was amazing for it's joint projects during that time

  56. Marcus

    Marcus

    6 dagen geleden

    well i ll take 200 diesel over the v8 a 1000 times.

  57. Carl Weidman

    Carl Weidman

    6 dagen geleden

    Best video I've watched in a long time

  58. Rodney c

    Rodney c

    7 dagen geleden

    Ryan Reynolds ish

  59. Anonymous Suomynona

    Anonymous Suomynona

    7 dagen geleden

    "It was engineered by Germans who were infatuated with fuel economy." Miles per gallon: *FOURTEEN*

    • MökkiMan

      MökkiMan

      2 dagen geleden

      This is the V8 model. Get a 250TD or a 280E and we'll see from that

    • Exotic Cars

      Exotic Cars

      4 dagen geleden

      More like cheating emissions

  60. Harry B

    Harry B

    7 dagen geleden

    Too bad it’s ugly

  61. Tips 4 truckers

    Tips 4 truckers

    7 dagen geleden

    I was not expecting. 0.26

  62. Clarence Thomas

    Clarence Thomas

    7 dagen geleden

    Ive been working on Benz for 20 years and never knew the 119 V8 won a le mans, some awesome info i these videos

  63. eric bunce

    eric bunce

    7 dagen geleden

    Great video. I love my w163 ML500

  64. ice cold

    ice cold

    7 dagen geleden

    I just discovered your page, and I must say this is some of the best automotive journalism I’ve ever seen. The quality is record breaking. The only thing that comes remotely close is donut.

  65. Hoonatic Bloggs

    Hoonatic Bloggs

    7 dagen geleden

    You lost me at ‘it’s recirculating ball steering is more talkative than and modern, blah blah.’ Nonsense. Just nonsense.

  66. jc3Dcx

    jc3Dcx

    8 dagen geleden

    "It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan" .... of course not, It's perfect, It's a Mercedes Benz.

  67. PioneerPauly

    PioneerPauly

    8 dagen geleden

    I absolutely love your personality during all your interviews well done my friend! Subscribed 👊🏼

  68. 3UZFE

    3UZFE

    8 dagen geleden

    and ruined with a 4 speed auto.

  69. Nino Keegan

    Nino Keegan

    8 dagen geleden

    Such a sexy car. You knew someone ment business if they had one of these. One of my favorite German cars.

  70. rune mikalsen

    rune mikalsen

    8 dagen geleden

    You did this car right!

  71. Ramana R

    Ramana R

    8 dagen geleden

    reminds me of the 'ethos' of Benz - to embody the vehicles that conquer Land, Air and Water, hence the tri-star on the emblem

  72. Carlito Brigante

    Carlito Brigante

    9 dagen geleden

    Wtf....im in 2021 and never seen a windhsield wiper like that. Holy moly🤯🤯🤯

  73. autobahnproven

    autobahnproven

    9 dagen geleden

    Is the AWD sleeper wagon V70R enough of a classic for a video?

  74. Victor Cruiser

    Victor Cruiser

    9 dagen geleden

    Verry professional!👍

  75. Long2757

    Long2757

    9 dagen geleden

    Never driven the 500E but I did get to drive an AMG Hammer. What a machine. Of course that was back in the late 90's when I drove it, I'm sure even the supercharged E55 AMG outperforms it now, but I love the W124 body. Want to get a black 300E and put a turbo LS in it.

  76. Paul Mendonca

    Paul Mendonca

    9 dagen geleden

    Nice one. Always loved that sedan. Still want one today.

  77. Corrupted Omega

    Corrupted Omega

    9 dagen geleden

    Lexus Ls400 has entered the chat.

  78. David Rothstein

    David Rothstein

    10 dagen geleden

    This guy is better than all of Top Gear America. Is there a UK version still?

  79. Corey M

    Corey M

    10 dagen geleden

    This is such a fantastic car but the E39 M5 would like to have a chat with you!

  80. LENOVOPRODUCER

    LENOVOPRODUCER

    10 dagen geleden

    Bruno Sacco is a God in car design. LNP

  81. Car-Lo

    Car-Lo

    10 dagen geleden

    Imagine you are a car seller from an insurance company trying to sell this car.... well, I'm sold!

  82. AkimBubble D. Eagle

    AkimBubble D. Eagle

    10 dagen geleden

    Its like a Louis Vuitton Road bike that is released during pandemic crisis,just wow

  83. Hassan Khan

    Hassan Khan

    10 dagen geleden

    Those were they when mercedes were as relible as toyota/lexus, and engineering on its finest, and now its all garabge speacily the electric ones as well, cars now days are just a joke to me with computers screens and cheap qulity materials that only feel that they are expensive when they aren't, nor the engines are much relible as well, for me old cars will never lose respect and never will ever over come any new car ever, if some one said would you take new 2020 mercedes E class or S I would say no I would go with real old merc with real amg.

  84. Maximus Murphius

    Maximus Murphius

    10 dagen geleden

    Excellent

  85. macthemec

    macthemec

    10 dagen geleden

    Goes through those corners like a tub of water at the end. Mercedes has always let me down just like the daniel craig james bond movies.

  86. Zach Lyons

    Zach Lyons

    11 dagen geleden

    The OG Ford Taurus was the future

  87. UnitedPebbles

    UnitedPebbles

    11 dagen geleden

    In terms of what: safety and aerodynamics? I see. So where can I get one? I thought M5 is musical? And Lexus claimed their engine is noiseless and vibrationless-the perfection?

  88. Yoshi1478

    Yoshi1478

    11 dagen geleden

    W124 - The last real Mercedes.

  89. Trevor Hsu

    Trevor Hsu

    11 dagen geleden

    I bought one of these today. It was a hot wheels while I was grocery shopping but I like it :)

    • Trevor Hsu

      Trevor Hsu

      11 dagen geleden

      Actually bought a blue Audi rs2 at the same time. It's fun to dream

  90. jnr1989

    jnr1989

    11 dagen geleden

    I dont think is correct to say this car is a compact because of today's standards... you said it has the size of an actual civic but come on a civic for that age was much smaller than today's civic. So, the full size sedans of the 80s are now compact sedans by today's standards... why? Are people and roads getting bigger?

  91. Rocco Fortura

    Rocco Fortura

    11 dagen geleden

    great job

  92. Edward M

    Edward M

    11 dagen geleden

    Finally. So many people get the story of this car wrong and this video gets it right.

  93. Daniel Rodriguez

    Daniel Rodriguez

    11 dagen geleden

    Excellent video.

  94. Nusantara Leaders

    Nusantara Leaders

    11 dagen geleden

    i love this car

  95. mrwaibel

    mrwaibel

    12 dagen geleden

    what about the diesel engine option they offered during the same model years it had a mechanical fuel pump and got really good fuel milage

  96. Max Doubt

    Max Doubt

    12 dagen geleden

    Lost me 0:06 seconds in with that tea slurp.

  97. Detective Aaron Nermal Falconsears

    Detective Aaron Nermal Falconsears

    12 dagen geleden

    this is DEFINETLY your car!

  98. brian lucas

    brian lucas

    12 dagen geleden

    Perfect. Except for the mileage thing. Of course, if you can afford it in the first place...

  99. Christian Visan

    Christian Visan

    12 dagen geleden

    The world's most perfect review of the world's most perfect sedan.

  100. DW

    DW

    12 dagen geleden

    To bad it's an automatic. That's for disabled and very old people.

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